Ok, I never really blogged or discussed the Magic Chicken diet on the LCF "fascination thread", not because I didn't find the information revealed suspicious or questionable, but because other things were taking up my time. When I was able to discuss the topic the focus had become more on the recent out of left field posts found on Jimmy Moore's forum, which I did blog about below. However, there has been so "much noise" being made over the MCD, that the "message has gotten lost". It seems that those who want myself and other LCF members to forget the "innocent" MCD only continue to bring it up and defend it. The message of don't discuss the MCD have actually been the reason it has been discussed.
This only adds to my curiosity over the MCD. It does not draw me away from it. Those who defend the diet do so without knowing the idea behind the diet and even go as far as labeling it just like Atkins or having better bottom lines than Kimkins Diet. Really? This is based on their own viewing of the diet itself or is it only said to get others to agree that MCD is not to be questioned? Why? Oh, that's right to protect the innocent. ROFL!
The innocent? Who gets to be included in this definition of innocent. Would it be the potential "innocent" thousands who could shell out money for a product that is dangerous and/or a fraud? That would be who I define as innocent, not the few people- owner and her SIL, that have been brought up as innocents involved. Their motives have been questioned and so have their business practices. That is not harm, but only consumers asking the hard questions. If you start a business you should be prepared to answer to those to whom you are trying to sell this product. If you want to remain nameless then don't use your name on your website or in your emails.
The other reason given as to why this MCD should not be explored is because of the information regarding the request for a clone of the Kimkins.com site. (Great find by Mariasol) Some say, "why would Kimmer do this when she has access to her own web guys who set up the original site?"
Come on people use your heads, kimmer is using hers! Why would she make a trail that lead back to her or Kimkins.com? If Kimmer has shown us anything it is her ability to set others up to take the fall in their involvement with Kimkins Diet, while she is on the side-lines using them as much as they will allow themselves to be used.
Who had all the stickies up at Kimkins.com? Not Kimmer.
Who was on the front of Woman's World promoting the diet to the nation? Not Kimmer.
Who was on the boards defending the Kimkins.com site and the bannings taking place when the members were speaking out? Not Kimmer.
Who was on national tv defending Kimkins.com to the nation and defending the site and the diet after it has been shown to be a fraud? Not Kimmer.
But yet Kimmer wouldn't have those who were partnering up with her to start a new website go and solicit a design that clones hers, because she has tech guys that she works with and that set-up the kimkins site.
Oh, No certainly not Kimmer! -that was sarcasm for those who don't recognize its use- or at least pretend it is above them, much like all the other actions done by the "redheaded stepchildren" of LCF a.k.a the DUCKS!
You know I am beginning to think it really is above them to do what we do.....Yep, it goes right over their heads!
Now, that my interest has been piqued, I think I will look into this some more once the holidays and the festivities have settled down. So to those who worked on the MCD uncovering of information- Great job! If it truly turns out to be nothing more than a website who needed to be made aware that consumers are watching and that they are copying a fraudulent site,then that is done. If it shows that the MCD site was not giving sound diet advice and others read this or the other blogs who have reported this, then well at least that was accomplished! If it turns out to be more….well then I will be sure to let you know!
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Thursday, December 27, 2007
Why Does it Matter So Much Which Comes First on The Thread...The Magic Chicken Diet or Kimkins?
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Thank you for keeping us informed of ALL the developments in the Kimkins Diet Scam .
You never know what is going to be important until a little way down the road. Hasn't that been proven over and over again with all this?
Keep up the good work, and DO keep us posted of the latest happenings.
BRAVO!!!!!
Fantastic HB. You won't be alone in your quest. The more I'm told to ignore something---the more I want to see what is really going on....
Things that make you go hmmmmm????
Hi Ladies! Thanks for stopping by my blog and the MCD mystery.
Like y'all Kimkins.com is the main focus of all our efforts. But Bama, I am with you on doing what I am told. lol
I guess I have never taken to being told to "sit down and shut up."
Or being told to "hush". I didn't like it as a young southern girl in pigtails and I certainly don't like it now as a woman on a mission.
So Bless my heart, because I may be strapping on a bullseye to my back, but it seems to be duck season anyway.
Thanks for the post keeping this subject "out there" so people would see it.
A few things.
First off, I'm not a former member and really didn't pay much attention to the diet until the sh** started to hit the fan. But....Becky I thought was a "good guy" (unlike Tippy, who wants to think she is), but the post a few days ago sounded like she was a die hard KK fan? Is there another Becky?? And the "ducks" too? I thought they (he, she, they) were also the "good guys"? Is there a program or scoresheet around for those of us that never hit the KK boards?
LCF itself is confusing! I've seen that refer to Low Carb Friends as well as Low Carb Forum??
On the other subject. Does it really matter if the MCD is a clone of KK or not? Both are very poor plans....they are deficient in so many things, calories just being one of them (canned chicken? please!). I think the point should be that they are BAD and DANGEROUS plans, not who has set them up! To me, I don't care WHO is behind those plans, they are unsafe and are more likely to promote dysfunctional eating habits, and are very dangerous for the young and anyone with any kind of medical condition! That should be where the emphasis is, not who is behind the plan, but the plan itself! (Hey, look at the unhealthy plans promoted by the ADA and AHA!!)
On the one hand I'm glad I never got involved in KK (I like my fat!), but it can be confusing sometimes!!
Keep up the fight!! Many of us really do appreciate the work you and others are doing!!
The "Tim Worstall Tabloid Edition" says:
November 12, 2007
Kimkins
Kimkins, or the Kimkins diet has been shown up to be just another scam on the unsuspecting.
Heidi "Kimmer" Diaz, the founder of the Kimkin's diet - a low carb, low calorie diet - is schedule to appear in a Southern California court on Monday, November 12th, 2007. 11 former users of her Kimkins diet program filed a complaint against her one week ago, claiming fraud, false advertising, and unjust enrichment.
The Kimkin's scandal began when Woman's World, a popular women's magazine featured an article on the Kimkin's diet.
Ms Diaz, who was claiming to have lost 198 pounds in 11 months using her diet plan, refused to meet with the magazine in person, instead corresponding through email. She went so far as to send the magazine before and after pictures that looked nothing alike, which makes sense when people found out that the before pictures were Ms. Diaz, however the after pictures were taken from a Russian 'mail-order' bride web site.
The kimkins diet advised eating just 500 calories a day. That less than concentration camp victims were getting:
Kimkins diet followers reported hair loss, menstrual cessation, irregualr heartbeat, fainting spells, and liver damage from the starvation diet scam.
No damn wonder! Let's hope she's jailed where she can get a decent diet!
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